Burnt Soil “We Know The PvP!”
So as most of our reads know, Scorched Earth as becomes the punching bag of Wicked Creek. Its been awhile since we’ve come across a group of internet spaceship pilots who display a complete and total lack of tactical sensibility, piss poor fleet command, and general all around ignorance of how to properly fit ships for combat.
Like most alliances of this type, the only thing they have going for them are numbers, and even then it is questionable that they are capable of winning a fight. So as their killboard will show, they have and will continue to be victimized by groups in the area for stat padding.
So Friday evening we decide to take a small group down the pipe to where burnt soil huddles for protection. These asshats are so worried about BOZO that they’ve staged a scout in Hemin, and yet another in the EIN pipe to watch if anything scary approaches. We see their scout and tell them where we are going several jumps in advance.
As we enter YI our scout reports 6 Burnt Soil battleships in 1L. So we laugh and send our scout to FQQ to get the rest of their fleet and sure enough the other 14 are piled on the 1L gate. So we decide to go for it and attack the BS’s. LOL so the fight begins and SE jumps the rest of their fleet in pretty much in a complete cluster fuck, but this it scorched earth we are talking about here so this isnt any kind of major discovery. Fight continues for a few minutes as we continue to pick off ships. From comms it sounds like the FC for burnt soil is having a very hard time deciding which targets to call as they continuously switch BOZO primary’s. With the fleet they hard they should have pulled a much higher efficiency. Battle Summary
So we head back to Hemin and decide to pay them another visit. We mount up in BC’s and head back to ‘Dawsons Creek’. Again, we encounter one of their scout several jumps out and info him where we are going. We enter 1L and are disappointed but not entirely shocked to see it empty. Scout reports F-QQ clear. Scout enters 4-E, ahh there they are all bunched up on the F-QQ gate, 31 ships, ten of which are battleships. They have numbers and are heavy so they should fight us. We jump in and start calling targets, Scorpion melts sense he feels he needed to be within 15m of the gate. Boom, lol as predicted they pop a cyno but instead on one carrier, they had to bring 6. Shit that was too funny and predictable. Battle Summary Wooo! they have one a single battle against BOZO, all hell must have broken loose on their comms like bus load of children accidentally breaking down in front of a house full of pedophiles.
They have been searching desperately to find a way to fight us effectively, which beyond already out numbering us, now includes the use of heavy capital ship support while still showing mediocre performance. We, like many who know you, laugh at you.
Now it must seem to Scorched Earth that they’ve won some kind of major victory against BOZO, based on the anonymous comments on our killboard, cowardly as predictable. Its one fight they’ve managed to pull anywhere close to big win against us. Please continue to liberally use those precious carriers on jump gates, its a great tactic and nothing could possible go wrong.. could it?
Posted on March 14th, 2009 at 02:28
Dude. You had to know what you were in for.
Now was that bravery or something else?
Posted on March 14th, 2009 at 04:25
lol oh we knew, and we knew you were going to hot drop us. We had bets on seeing a carrier or two, but, lol six? Its good to know you fear and respect us that much.
Posted on March 15th, 2009 at 01:48
Respect? Yes… maybe more so if honesty could be found in your assessments, or at least validity in your commentary.
Fear? Hardly. It’s fun having someone deliver free salvage and loot to our doorstep. Why, whatever would we do without our local 0.0 delivery service?! Perish the thought!
Posted on March 15th, 2009 at 07:30
validity? We only deliver 100% accuracy and truth even when we know it may hurt others. Delivery service, ha, when we have to search for you in order to ‘The PvP’ when your fleets run the moment a hand full of BOZO enter local, then yes, we have to travel to Dawsons Creek to disrupt your ratting haven in hopes that you can muster enough pilots to actually fight us.
Your pilots know the honesty of what we write and more specifically your FC’s know the truth about your actions, or lack there of.
Having numbers is a valid tactic, one of many, but having personally witnessed your lack luster performance to date, that is the only tactic that is marginally effective against us, I really cant over emphasize enough on the phrase ‘marginally effective’.
Our record speeks for itself and so does yours
Posted on March 15th, 2009 at 21:08
If you guys are so bad ass, why is it that when you come to our doorstep, you usually run like little girls with your skirts hiked up?
Why is it that when we roll out to your doorstep, we have to wait a half hour for a fight?
The only thing you got going for you is numbers. I’ve read your forums front to back and your executor, Elrac (or whatever the douchebag is called) is a moron and Ducky ,your big FC, is a dipshit.
I particularly enjoyed the “I’m officially sick of Curse” thread…you know, the one where you guys try and copy our fits, but you don’t know how to use them tactically, so you just change them to the same old bullshit fucked up fits you fly. I guess if you’re too stupid to come up with good fits for your alliance, might as well steal them from others.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 04:02
Typically, when you guys show up, everyone is ratting. So, that being said, you guys show up, fleet already assembled, ready to fight. Now, if we are ratting, and you show up, we are probably not going to be in a decent PVP ship, and more than likely we will not be in a fleet. Hmm, i bet you guys feel bad ass when you come into our space, and everyone scrambles. Just thought I would share my insight.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 05:46
Your KB-
http://eatabagofdicks.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=14838
Ours-
http://207.192.70.231/sc0rched_earth/?a=kill_related&kll_id=6900
blackbird kill-
http://207.192.70.231/sc0rched_earth/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=6910
’nuff said
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 07:13
ROFL! Oh man, where to start.
Ashen, neat, you learned how to post links, we’re very proud of you. So that proves what exactly? You won a single fight? I bet just like the Special Olympics, you all get a medal for that one didnt you. We know you cling very tightly to that single battle, and yes assy muffins, you even got that big mean ol’ massive Blackbird all by your onesies!
Take some time to read ALL the words, and dont get so, emotional.
Gerbil, according to your statement and the actions we see in your fleets, that would mean you guys are ‘constantly ratting’ even during your field trips to Curse. 99% of the time one of our scouts enters any system your fleet may be located in, the results are always the same with you guys, your fleet scatters like someone just shit on the coffee table.
’nuff said?
(for accuracy the other 1% is in 4-EFLU while they are docked under the magical cyno jamming umbrella of tasty cakes and rainbows)
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 15:49
Even after us serving up a fleet for you and your faggoty carriers to munch, your overall efficiency still sucks.
And, what was up last night? We hear you faggots are trying to be big boys and roam in Curse and you run as we undock 6 jumps away. And we still killed one of your guys as you were in full run back to happy ratter fun land. Ha
BRAVO! Then, because you’re sooo awesome, you sit in safe spots and run like little girls everytime you caught a hint of our manly musk.
Oh, and Gerbil, who the fuck are you kidding? Not us I’ll tell you. You cock gobblers have got lookouts several jumps out of 1L, so don’t use that faggot bullshit excuse…faggot.
‘Nuff said, I think not.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 16:22
The best part is a 1300 man alliance can’t go toe to toe against a 100 man corp. They get smashed in even number fights every time.
They have threads dedicated to us and how to kill us and counter us that span pages and they still can’t figure it out. We are just better than you, there is no counter to you sucking and us being awesome.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 18:33
LOL I forgot got about that one Teister
“Hmm, i bet you guys feel bad ass when you come into our space, and everyone scrambles.”
makes it sound like we just show up all of a sudden. So the scouts you have in Hemin, CL, EIN, and DE dont tell you we’re coming even when we tell them in local exactly where we are heading? If thats the case then your scouts are worthless.
If we have to fly all the way down there to show you The PvP and your not even able to muster up a fleet to ‘defend’ whatever the fuck it is down there that you think is so worth defending? Well, then your alliance is an even bigger cluster fuck operation than we first thought.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 21:24
Okay, can we keep the idiocy to a minimum here? That goes to both sides.
Let me make this simple – you guys are good PvPers. You are good at what you do. But the fact is, and you know it’s true – you’re no actual threat to our sov here. There’s nothing you could do to actually kick us out of this space. You are good at your part of the game, but saying that we “fail” simply because that’s not the aspect of PvP we are good at is pure fallacy. It’d be like me saying that you guys fail because you don’t hold any sov.
You know we have more numbers, more caps, and more of pretty much everything. We lack the history of flying with the same people, which I’m sure you have. We recently grew by about 700 people and have a lot of integration to do.
The fact that you guys are nothing more than a nuisance is why we don’t always bother to defend. Our jump bridges still work, our cyno gens still work, and your presence isn’t really a threat.
I do like you guys and think you’re quite fun to have around, keeping us on our toes, but getting the delusion that you’re awesome when your success is based on your irrelevance is pretty stupid.
Now for the BYRN people in here, I’d like for this alliance to have a positive image of mature people who don’t go around smacking like a dumbass. So stop. I might not be El’rac or any leadership, but I’ve been with the alliance for a long time and the only reason we have our space is because we were respectful to our enemies.
Thank You.
Posted on March 16th, 2009 at 22:54
“Okay, can we keep the idiocy to a minimum here? ”
No…go fuck your mother.
The fact you don’t defend is because you’re cowardly, pure and simple. Your pilots should be rather rich by now…why are you scared to lose a ship? We had your crappy fleet last night on the run and if your pilots would have stopped to fight, worst case scenario for your pilots would have been to lose a couple hundred mill in ship loss combined.
Go ask those who lived there before you how much damage we did to their corps and alliances. Sure, we don’t want the sov out there, so you guys are safe in that arena, but don’t underestimate our epic metagaming skills. I personally already have 2 alts in your alliance in different corps, several other BOZO pilots have access as well. Don’t think we won’t turn on the full meal deal and attack your ratters with an extended black ops campaign compounded by sewing seeds of dissention within your ranks as well as stealing all your shit when you aren’t looking. Ask OWN alliance, ask UFA…ask all the other TCF pets that have been here and been fucked up by us. We did more damage than anyone taking sov from them.
You and the rest of your ilk act as if you fought some mighty battles, had years of dramatic wins and losses to achieve your sov out in WC. The fact of the matter is that you live in space that nobody wants.
Woopity fuckin’ doooooo!
You weren’t even smart enough to claim sov in a dyspo moon system. TCF took those and you’re too big of pussies to take it from them.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 00:15
Well I’m unaware of others choices, since I don’t lead fleets, but the only reason I wouldn’t fight in a fleet I was leading was if there was more important things going on.
Contrary to popular belief, living in 0.0 does not make you rich. I’m lazy enough to have almost no money most of the time.
Monetary damage is still monetary damage, again, without tower losses it’s not much. Back in CAN we had ratters harassed quite often by one person and while most people were too lame to fight back, it didn’t shut us down. Most of those TCF pets are pets for a reason, they suck. FTZ anyone? Furthermore now that we know you have spies, we can do something about it. And when you do start stealing stuff, if you do, we know who to attack.
I never acted like we did anything extravagant to take WC, so I don’t see why you’re pointing something like that out. All I said was that your roams can’t disrupt our cyno gens and jump bridges. In fact I even pointed out in my post that we got our space because TCF let us, they decided they liked us after our helping the NC in Dek. They gave us our home constellation and we grew from there. We had NC help initially and fought a bit afterward to take the space from EXE.
I think it’s pretty obvious why we aren’t taking any moons from TCF, it’s because we’d lost any ability to hold space here or in a lot of other places. At this level, there’s things called repercussions for you actions.. Maybe that’s a bit hard for you to comprehend. Besides, we have Dyspro moons elsewhere. Yes, we have the capacity to maintain more than one POS at a time, incredible isn’t it?
I find it interesting how I asked for people to now be e-peen waving idiots and even made a post saying I liked you guys, and your response was just more flaming and e-peen flailing….
Here’s the simple version – We play two different games. You’re good at small fleets/gangs, we hold space. You concern ISK loss, we concern our sovereignty. Quit getting a superiority complex because you beat someone at your game – I can like and respect you guys for being good opponents, but not with this attitude. Until you kick us out of WC, shut up.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 01:28
You’ve said nothing worth reading…I shouldn’t have even approved your message.
All I see are “I’s” in that post. Are you speaking for your shitty alliance, or just your own shitty self?
You, personally, may have never done anything like saying how awesome you are and how we suck for not holding sov space, but your alliance has. So fuck you. It was given to you. Brag more about that…
Neat, you can fuel more than one POS…you’re awesome. I’m sure you’ve got thousands of POSs that you fuel like little faggots. What’s your point? You are claiming WC and have none of the dyspo moons there because you’re TCF bitches. Brag more about how awesome you are.
Why would we kick you out of WC? Like I said before, that region is one of the shittiest in the universe. Shitty rats, shitty moons, shitty shitty shitty.
We’re playing the same game. EVE it’s called and you suck at it. On all levels. We’re just pointing it out to you. Don’t get all teary eyed about it. Respect us all you want. You and your ilk are suck incarnate and will never have our respect. You’re jokes. Your a fuckin’ punch line.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 04:05
I don’t represent BYRN in any way, but I’d like to think I’m speaking for a calmer part of the alliance, instead of the louder minority.
I just said we do have Dyspro moons, idiot. Just not ones in TCF’s constellation. Because that’s their space, and they are our much more powerful ally. If we attacked them we’d get attacked by pretty much all of our neighbors. Now to someone living in NPC space with 2 or 3 POS, that’s not so big a deal. But it actually has repercussions to us.
Also there’s the whole “maturity” aspect where we don’t backstab the people who gave us our space in the first place.
I explained why – it’s two parts of the game. You can reject that all you want but its true. There’s a huge depth to this game and while they intertwine, separate parts are separate. Running missions is completely unrelated to small gang PvP, for example. I can’t honestly say that BYRN is the ultimate at small scale PvP. Your group is very good in that area. But you can’t claim to judge all aspects of our ability as an alliance in that one limited area. So my point is, prove that we’d get kicked out of our space by an alliance 1/13th of our size, then you can say we suck. Kick us out of WC, and then we suck. If we really were kicked out of our sov space by a 100 person alliance, then we’d suck hard.
I respected you guys as opponents before I read this and realized that you just engineer a superiority complex about yourself by claiming to be “uber 1337 PvPers”. So let me ask, if we suck so much, how are you so awesome for beating us? Evidently you’re beating someone who sucks, guess that just means you’re mediocre.
Our ability to be mature got us a lot farther than claiming to be completely awesome at everything in Eve, and even farther than military strength did. Learn from that.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 08:02
Or here’s an idea if you don’t like what we write on OUR blog then just don’t read it! If it makes your pussy hurt so much you fear you may never grow a set of balls just like your dear old mother/sister, go back down to your dark basement and hide.
We know we’re good at PvP we don’t need you to tell us that and it doesn’t mean shit coming from someone we don’t respect anyway.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 15:06
God damn, you’re a thick motherfucker. You’ve said the same shit 3 times. We get it, we just don’t fucking agree with it. FUCK…
You can rationalize, intellectualize and over analyze all this til the cows come home, but it doesn’t change the fact that you suck goat balls, as does your whole alliance, because you play the game like a bunch of little bitches. If you came out and at least tried to fight with less than 5:1 odds, you might garner a bit of respect. But you don’t.
It’s like having a baseball team. The BOZO team will play anywhere, anytime with any number of people ready to play because we love us some fucking baseball. The Burnt Dirt team will only play baseball at their home field with 3x the numbers on the field. And you will only use giant bats with a tee because us pitching to you would make you run to the club house.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 18:04
If they spent half as much time learning the pvp as they do writing crap trying to make themselves look better on the comments on our blog maybe they would have more than one fight against us they could link without embarrassment.
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 19:58
LOL you know Arancia, with all the time I spent writing in this post, I could have just had you write that^ and been done with it
Posted on March 17th, 2009 at 21:34
Then what would I entertain myself with as I make bookmarks in “their” space?
Posted on March 19th, 2009 at 00:23
I didn’t know there was more than one aspect to PVP. Or, rather, I didn’t know you could call it “PVP” when you spend half your time doing non-PVP things like ratting and POS maintenance.
Nice blog post, Tolarus.
Also, I don’t think “nuisance” enemies warrant 6 carriers, but that’s just me. I’m a retard.
Posted on March 23rd, 2009 at 20:33
Lawl,nice trolling and that is coming from a BYRN member.
Posted on March 26th, 2009 at 09:55
In this day and age of dreads hotdropping industrials and titans doomsdaying T1 cruiser gangs, you are complaining about 6 (SIX!) carriers being brought in during an engagement on a big alliance’s stomping grounds?
gues it’s about time you left this area then, so you can have honorable fights in bushido space
Posted on March 26th, 2009 at 23:48
You missed the point completely. Fags, like sc0rched earth having 70+ in local and they have to hot drop on a couple of battleships? ahahha
Far from complaining you dumbass, its shows their (and others) inability to fight, they suck so much ass at The PvP that cap ships are their only option. It is a tactic, sure, same thing with holding higher numbers than your adversary, but in relation to those burnt mud fags, old IAC (aka BLACK) and others like them who rely only on cap ships to fight, bah unskilled, untalented, undisciplined, and unimpressive.
CVA has a massive cap fleet, never once had them hot drop on us. Of course, when they can mobilize 80+ pilots in 15 minutes or less to respond to intruders, they dont need cap support
And to address leaving, again because you seem a little slow, we got tired of fags not wanting to fight us, having to chase targets around all goddamn night while they ran back to the station and hid or tried to play undock games. Curse was fun, but after a year+ it started getting stale.
AAA and others who would visit the area and fight us get our respect, they like us, know a thing or two about The PvP.